Because every morning grind deserves a shot of heart, humor, and HR.
Join Jackye Clayton & John Baldino as they discuss people, leadership, and life. Brewed fresh every Thursday.
Where HR meets real life
Brewed strong and served with a splash of humor.
But First, Coffee is a live weekly talk show where Jackye Clayton and John Baldino bring candid, insightful conversations about the world of work, leadership, and all things people.
Each episode blends expert insight with real-world experience—covering employee engagement, leadership, inclusion, technology, and culture. It's not just HR theory; it's HR reality, poured fresh each week.
Every great conversation starts with a cup of coffee
Join our community of HR professionals, leaders, and curious minds every week.
Meet the duo
Jackye Clayton
Co-Host
An HR professional bringing candid insights and real-world experience to the conversation about workplace culture, leadership, and all things people. Jackye's authentic approach makes complex HR topics accessible and actionable.
John Baldino
Co-Host & Humareso Founder
Founder of Humareso, bringing strategic HR expertise and thought leadership to help organizations build better workplaces. John's forward-thinking approach inspires leaders to reimagine what's possible in human resources.
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